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    Lightbulb *** PLO strategy thread ***

    In this thread, you can post up to 2 hand histories per week from your PLO games. our poker pros promise to comment on them. Also any members here can comment on them (it is encouraged).

    So if you have something to ask about hands you have played in PLO games, post them here - get expert's advice and learn.
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    No specific reads on villain, seemed to be a decent and aggressive guy. Hero had to b/f couple times earlier in same kind of spots on missed boards. Fightplan for flop/turn?

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    BB ($485.90)
    Hero ($412.30)
    Button ($509.35)
    SB ($764.75)

    Preflop: Hero is UTG with T, 8, 9, K.
    Hero raises to $7,2 folds[/color], BB calls $5.

    Flop: ($15) J, 2, T (2 players)
    BB checks, Hero bets $14.25, BB raises to $57, Hero calls $42.75.

    Turn: ($129) Q (2 players)
    BB bets $127, Hero ?[/quote

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    This is a great hand showing one concept on the flop play, which I think many small stakes - mid-stakes do wrong (some might disagree with me though).

    Iīll get back to this hand tomorrow (saturday). Of course all the members are welcomed to drop their comments before (or after) that.

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    I don't like just calling on the flop as you have tons of outs which are not to the nuts, and you won't be able to know which of them are good. Against an aggressive villain which you might have some folding equity against, I would just repot the flop and get it in, if the villain is nitty I would probably just lay it down on the flop. Interested in hearing winnergamblings thoughts tho

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    definitely repop on the flop, because you also have a middlepair you have a lot of equity against hands like overpair+flushdraw. I think that is what makes difference here between reraising and folding on flop.

    But as played here i think you are forced to stack off on turn, especially because it's hu pot on four-handed table, but your flop play really put you on difficult situation

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    What I wanted to say about this, is that like 99% of players c-bet this flop, but against aggro, good opponent, it is much better to check behind and take a free card on the flop about 75% mixed with 25% of c-betting IMO.

    200bbīs deep, you donīt want to bloat the pot on the flop with uncertain hand, where you might be drawing almost dead.

    So against described kind oo an opponent, check back the flop over 50% of the time.

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    Thanks for interesting points. I was little off the radar in that hand, because I have huuuuge problems playing +200bb deep. In this particular hand, I thought at flop that I cannot fold (well obv i can) and didnt want to build huge pot with marginal holding, which obv lead to huge problems on turn. But, maybe I will become superomahahero some day.

    And yeah, I shoved turn ja ended drawing dead. Good times, good times.

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    Villain (Garikas888) is fishy 55/31/1.6 over 94 hands, but he's got the best of me so far this session, somehow.

    Preflop and flop are standard. On the flop I hit gin, just hoping no more hearts. Obv turn is a heart. On the turn I think I make a betsizing error. I should've bet about 50 so I have a potsized bet left for river. Or is there merit to checking the turn?

    As played, what do you do on the river? There's $146 in the pot and I have $171 behind.

    I have some mixed feelings about this hand. I'll reveal later what they are.

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    Stack sizes:
    hero: $239.00
    CO: $591.70
    Button: $69.80
    SB: $196.00
    BB: $307.20

    Pre-flop: (5 players) hero is UTG with 8 J J Q
    hero raises to $8, CO calls, Button folds, SB calls, BB folds.

    Flop: 3 2 J ($26, 3 players)
    SB checks, hero bets $20, CO calls, SB folds.

    Turn: 9 ($66, 2 players)
    hero bets $40, CO calls.

    River: 4 ($146, 2 players)
    hero ?
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    The more I think about this hand the more I get confused and the more I wanna just puke. Maybe the turn is a clear check-call? Basically there's nothing I need to protect my hand against, and the only reason for betting is to make the pot bigger in order to stack villain on the river. But can I stack a lower flush here often enough to justify betting, or am I getting stacked more often in result? If I check-call turn I can donk or c/r river if I boat up. And possibly c/f against a big bet. Or if it gets checked through I can valuebet.

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    Against 1.6 agro guy you can make a small blocking bet on te river, even 1/4 pot or so. If he raises you are for sure beat. 1.6's don't bluff-raise river.

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