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    netnode is offline Gambler netnode is an unknown quantity at this point
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    Okay, I finally played it - that free fall phase (played with 1x1€ bets, down about 90€ within 400-500€ wagering, 2 different bonuses) ended and balance stayed pretty much at the same level, ranging from 85€ to 109€, finishing balance 100€, starting balance 140€, EV +35€.

    So, again a poor result (+-0€) from net-ent casino. However, I have to say that I am still quite happy with it. The early betting period was really too much for me, I could not tolerate it, still remembering well other bad results from net-ent.

    I have to confess that Betsson is not probably rigged, the rest of the wagering returned my ability to believe that this is likely to be just bad variance. Anyway, I am still a bit suspicious about net-ent. Anyone will be with silmilar results.

    I apologize for any inconvenience, both to Betsson and to forum members.

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    I believe betsson is rigged. for the players advantage. I just played suomiarvat SUB. starting balance 100€ playing 5€/hand and ended up withdrawing 375€
    I have always have quite sick results from betsson( almost always huge wins). last 140€ worth of EV has brought me 642.5€ from them

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    Quote Originally Posted by netnode View Post
    Okay, I finally played it - that free fall phase (played with 1x1€ bets, down about 90€ within 400-500€ wagering, 2 different bonuses) ended and balance stayed pretty much at the same level, ranging from 85€ to 109€, finishing balance 100€, starting balance 140€, EV +35€.

    So, again a poor result (+-0€) from net-ent casino. However, I have to say that I am still quite happy with it. The early betting period was really too much for me, I could not tolerate it, still remembering well other bad results from net-ent.

    I have to confess that Betsson is not probably rigged, the rest of the wagering returned my ability to believe that this is likely to be just bad variance. Anyway, I am still a bit suspicious about net-ent. Anyone will be with silmilar results.

    I apologize for any inconvenience, both to Betsson and to forum members.
    I have probably gained more from Net Ent bonuses than you have wagered.

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    I felt the same as op when deposited 100€ and played 1x 2€ bets and lost it all (140€) before 50% wagering was done. Then i calmed down and remembered the term variance

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    I completely agree with topic starter.
    I seem to have very bad luck in all netent casinos. Most of the bonuses I've played ends or starts with dealer 10+ streak where visible card is 10 or A. I play only 1€x5/1€x3. It's just unbelievable!

    EDIT: And doubling on netent have been always -ev
    Last edited by Johny; 16-02-2010 at 14:44.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Johny View Post
    I completely agree with topic starter.
    I seem to have very bad luck in all netent casinos. Most of the bonuses I've played ends or starts with dealer 10+ streak where visible card is 10 or A. I play only 1€x5/1€x3. It's just unbelievable!

    EDIT: And doubling on netent have been always -ev
    This area is for useful information. All the whining should put to BRH - *** Official Bitching thread ***, thanks. I have been playing well over 50 netent bonuses and I'll play them in the future too, just cash out over 300 euros from suomiarvat.com. Thanks for the tip Markus!

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    Quote Originally Posted by samppa View Post
    This area is for useful information. All the whining should put to BRH - *** Official Bitching thread ***, thanks. I have been playing well over 50 netent bonuses and I'll play them in the future too, just cash out over 300 euros from suomiarvat.com. Thanks for the tip Markus!
    Sorry didn't meant to be so agressive and mods are free to move my post

    What games you usually play on netent because 1€ bet size feels too small to get that kind of money?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Johny View Post
    Sorry didn't meant to be so agressive and mods are free to move my post

    What games you usually play on netent because 1€ bet size feels too small to get that kind of money?
    If the bonus is cashable (you deposit 50 e and start betting with 100 e) I first try to double 2 or 3 times and after that I use smaller bet size (in this case maybe 3 e, because the software is really fast I like to do the grinding with quite small bets) to complete the wr. I always use BJ if it's possible, baccarat and FR are also good games when you try to double or triple your starting balance usually these games are excluded.

    When I started to play these bonuses I always played them with small bets usually my bet size was bonus / 40. Now my bankroll is much bigger so I always play the bonuses with big bets when possible. Last summer I lost 8 bonus in a row so you have to prepare yourself also to bad results.

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