*** Official Bitching thread ***

[samib]

Thought this thread might be useful for releasing some fumes or just to upset me even more with your huge upswings I myself got a lot to bitch about.

Today I busted for the second time a balance of 300 by GRINDING. Pissed of about it. Also I have tried aggressive playing in 6 casinos. 5 of them busted and in one of them achieved my goal but when grinding from 900 downswinged my balance to 500 . Luckily first casinos I played were +ev but now im looking at +450e(-200e from lucky ace if not getting payed) after 20-25 casinos. Well only way is up I hope.

Well, feel much better now after getting to write this down Feel free to try it yourself.

[_DJ_]

I also have some bitter memories from the grinding phase at many casinos. I always play it aggressive, and have reached EV doing that, but almost always when I begin the grind I seem to lose a lot. The worst one was BET365 where I first hit 600£, then began grinding with 5x5£ stakes and went busto! Sick. Last night I had Alljackpots grinding 12k spins of roulette, the result was down 250 from ~800 to 550. Obv. not as bad as Bet365 but sucks anyway.

I've got to the grinding phase (from 2.5x to 3x target) maybe 5 or 6 times and 5 times out of 6 I have lost from 1/2 to 1/3 of my bankroll, and only once made a small profit.

Well, w/e that's just variance, and it's certainly better to run ok when doubling up and bad when grinding than vice versa..

My excel chart isn't completely up to date but the figures should be around 3k EV in euros and profit of 2,5k so I'm running a bit below EV.

[Jsi]

I wouldnt call that grinding, 5*5 is a huge bet, you should grind with something like 5 * 1 or 2.

[Nihan]

I wouldnt call that grinding, 5*5 is a huge bet, you should grind with something like 5 * 1 or 2.

Nah, just learn to embrace variance

Funny thing happened yesterday. I signed up at Betsafe, which has a 100e 100% 50x prewager signup with VP as the best allowed game.

I first went and played BJ seeking to double up. Succeeded in this, and proceeded to 50 hand Jacks Or Better, where I first grinded for a little while with $5 bets. Took a little break and moved to 25 hand JoB to grind with $12,5 bets. I noticed that my balance was not displaying correctly in the game window, but thought that it was just some bug and proceeded to grind out the whole $5k WR. Was pretty pissed as I steadily lost almost 400e. However, after leaving the table, I realised that during my break my session had expired, and I had been grinding with play money

[Maitomies]

So this is the right place to put my crying?
I hate microgaming roulette-grinding, they are so rigged.
I have yet to win on any of the roulette grinding phases and i think it has been 4 times now. And i have done them in 500bets with autoplay. I mean none of these 500 spins has made me money
I keep loosing the money and everytime i tell myself it's +EV. Don't think i'll have to worry that for a while though since 3 of my microgaming accounts were closed because i was a "bonus abuser". LOL.

[Winnergambling]

I want to bitch because I have serious flu at the moment and I would like to do a ton of stuff, but my eyes and head and nose hurts so much that I feel like handicapped. Well, maybe it´s just better to go to bed and watch a movie or something.

[_DJ_]

I wouldnt call that grinding, 5*5 is a huge bet, you should grind with something like 5 * 1 or 2.

Don't have the time or the patience. Anything more than 200 hands is too much of a grind to me. Bet365 maybe I could've done like 3x5 but nah, as I have the bankroll, there's no reason. I can always whine here if it doesn't go smoothly.

[Natcracker]

So this is the right place to put my crying?
I hate microgaming roulette-grinding, they are so rigged.
I have yet to win on any of the roulette grinding phases and i think it has been 4 times now. And i have done them in 500bets with autoplay. I mean none of these 500 spins has made me money
I keep loosing the money and everytime i tell myself it's +EV. Don't think i'll have to worry that for a while though since 3 of my microgaming accounts were closed because i was a "bonus abuser". LOL.

Don't know do I have just better luck than average or is it this "highly tested method". After every 500 autoplayed hands I look whichone, black or red, has came more often and next 500 spins I bet to one that have less hits.

Like I said I have no proof, that this is anyway near right method 'cause every spin is individual. But I think that 5000 spins is long enough run for 2 options to choose from.

And after grinding I usually have more money than before it.

[Timppa]

Blaah, just played suite332 casino.

Bet 250 for first hand and lose, then won next three ones and got up to 1000$

Then i thought what would be good betsize to wager the rest of the bonus, not too high for variance and not too slow cause of the bonus rules.

Decided to put 5$ in three spots...

After 240 hands i was back in the start, cashier shows 510$ !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ok, face turned red and steam forced out of ears, bet 100$ on single spot..........

Toke 7 hands to BUST.

Variance showed hairy ASS.

Face up and towards new disappointments

[samppa]

Blaah, just played suite332 casino.

Bet 250 for first hand and lose, then won next three ones and got up to 1000$

Then i thought what would be good betsize to wager the rest of the bonus, not too high for variance and not too slow cause of the bonus rules.

Decided to put 5$ in three spots...

After 240 hands i was back in the start, cashier shows 510$ !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ok, face turned red and steam forced out of ears, bet 100$ on single spot..........

Toke 7 hands to BUST.

Variance showed hairy ASS.

Face up and towards new disappointments

So the site really is rigged. I also first doubled to 1 000 $, then I started to grind betting 3 x 5 $. Now I have wagered 2 500 $ on black jack (betting 3 x 5 $). My balance is 500 $. I am now on break from that site.